【討論】巔峰時期的科比有多恐怖?美國鄉民齊歎無人能擋

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在2006-07 賽季接近尾聲之時,Kobe的場均得分僅僅在5場內就從29.1上升到了31.0。在連續五場比賽里,Kobe接連砍下了65,50,60,50和43的高分。


65 vs Portland


50 vs Minnesota


60 at Memphis


50 at New Orleans


43 vs Golden State


對陣拓荒者拿下65 分,對陣灰狼 50 分,灰熊 60 分,黃蜂 50 分,勇士 43 分。


The Lakers had been on a 7-game losing streak prior to this, including two back-to-back blowout losses of 36 points and 27 points. They had fallen to almost .500, and were in real danger of missing the playoffs in the West.


在這場得分盛宴之前,湖人經歷了7連敗,包括兩場背靠背的大比分輸球,各輸了36分和27分。7連敗後,球隊的勝率已降至近五成,而且有錯失季后賽的危險。


This is when Kobe went full nuclear mode, scoring 4 straight 50-point games and 5 straight 40-point games. The Lakers won all 5 games, and they needed all of Kobe's points, as they won every game by single digits.


然後Kobe就牟足了勁進入了殺神模式,他連續4場砍下50分,連續5場砍下40分。湖人贏了全部的5場比賽,Kobe得到的每一分都至關重要,因為每一場比賽他們都只贏了個位數的分數。

2006-07賽季,Kobe和安東尼一直在競爭得分王的位置。湖人7連敗的最後一場恰恰就是對陣安東尼率領的掘金。掘金大勝湖人27分,而甜瓜在得分上也勝過了Kobe。這完全點燃了Kobe的鬥志,在賽季的剩餘時間裡,Kobe把本來十分焦灼的得分王競爭變得毫無懸念,遙遙領先安東尼。常規賽結束後,Kobe場均31.6分,安東尼28.9分。



以下是Reddit鄉民討論


[ – ]CelticsMarcusNotSmart 659指標1天前

He also shot 54/51/93 in that span lmao fucking amazing

賽爾提克球迷:在那幾場比賽,Kobe命中率場均54/51/93,哈哈哈這也太狂了吧。


[ – ]2girls1ant 140指標1天前

Kobe retains heat better than any player in the history of the game. Guy can have a good first quarter in January and won't miss again till March. It's a joke clowns on this sub even have him as far as outside the top 10 of all time.

Kobe保持手感火熱的能力比歷史上任何一個球員都要好。這傢伙能在1月份比賽的第一節手感火熱,然後直到3月份都不投丟一個球。討論區裡竟然有譁眾取寵的小丑把Kobe排到歷史前十之外,真是笑話。


[ – ]NBALeJordanBelfort 290指標1 天前

Imagine what Kobe would do with today's spacing

想像一下Kobe在現今的比賽空間下能打出什麼樣的表現吧。


[ – ]LakersCutLonzosHair2017 403指標1天前

Imagine what Kobe would do to switch isolations.

湖人球迷:再想像一下Kobe面前是被換防到自己身上的一對一防守人時會幹什麼吧。


[ – ][NYK] Frank Ntilikinaaoifhasoifha 208指標1天前

Pick and lol.

擋完不拆,而是原地哈哈大笑(反正你們也防不住我)。


[ – ]CelticsMexter-Dorgan 210指標1天前

it's like during Celtics-Cavs when LeBron kept getting switched onto Rozier. BBQ Chicken.

賽爾提克球迷:就像今年我賽對陣騎士的季後賽期間Rozier不斷地被換防到James身上。完全是虐菜啊。


[ – ]Lakerscfcforeverfan 78 指標1天前

imagine Kobe doesnt need to play against the best defender all night

imagine Kobe 1 on 1 someone like Harden, omfg

湖人球迷:再想像一下Kobe並不用整場比賽都要面對敵軍最好的防守者。

再想像一下Kobe單挑哈登這樣的防守者,我的老天鵝啊。



[ – ]TheBurner4567 76指標1天前

That's ridiculously hard to do

這也太他媽難做到了吧。


[ – ]gun1gugu 67指標1天前

Just WTF... Kobe is probably the hardest player to stop when he gets going, ever... Nobody could stop him in full Mamba mode, when he just "simply" decides to take over the game... double teams, tripple teams, whatever... Just fucking insane

完全是我了個大XX……當Kobe手感爆炸的時候,他可能是歷史上最難被限制的球員了……當他很“簡單”地決定去接管比賽的時候,沒有人能阻止黑曼巴模式的Kobe。隨便你怎麼雙人包夾,三人包夾……94狂。


[ – ]Nastraballer 20指標20 小時前

People forget Kobe averaged 35.40 in 05-06, the 8th highest in NBA history. He was a scoring machine for those 4 years but figured out he can't do it alone.

大家都忘了Kobe在20 05-06賽季場均35.40分了,這是NBA歷史上第8高的場均得分。在那4年裡,Kobe就是個得分機器,但是後來他意識到光靠他自己是不行的了。


[ – ]LakersAmnestyTHAT 71指標1天前

"Never the best player in the league"

湖人球迷:結果還有人說Kobe從來沒當過聯盟第一人。



[ – ]youarepotato 160指標1天前

Everybody loves to hate Kobe but he did things that it's very realistic the league will never see again. I say this because even LeBron, amazing as he is, hasn't scored like a red hot Kobe used to score

大家都喜歡黑Kobe,但是他曾經做過的那些事真的很有可能再也不會在這個聯盟裡出現了。我這麼說是因為,強如詹姆斯都沒法像手感爆棚的Kobe那樣得分。


[ – ]Cavaliers BandwagonPM_ME_UR_BEST_STORY_ 75指標1天前

I doubt many people would argue that LeBron is a better scorer than prime Kobe

騎士球迷:額,沒多少人會認為詹姆斯是比巔峰Kobe更好的得分手吧。


[ – ]SupersonicsThebasedgod_lilb 95指標23小時前

I've literally seen comments saying that Lebron is a better scorer than Kobe because of PPG and TS%. They also call Kobe an overrated scorer because "what only matters is how many points you score, not how you do it"

我還真的見過不少評論這麼說,就因為場均得分和真實命中率。他們還說Kobe是個被高估的得分手,因為“真正重要的是你得了多少分,而不是你怎麼得的這些分。“


[ – ]Trail BlazersCletus_Starfish 54指標23小時前

Yeah, that's always been weird to me. LeBron is the better all around player, but Kobe is definitely the more versatile scorer.

拓荒者球迷:沒錯,我也認為這想法很奇怪。詹姆斯是更加全面的球員,但是Kobe無疑是擁有更多得分方式的那一個。


[ – ]SupersonicsThebasedgod_lilb 64指標23小時前

It isn't weird because /r/ nba is basically /r/lebron at this point and most of this sub didn't watch Kobe in his prime or don't watch much games at all.

並不奇怪,因為咱話題區(Reddit)現在基本上就是詹區了,而且話題區裡的大部分人都沒看過巔峰Kobe的比賽,或者根本就不怎麼看比賽。


[ – ]LakersHighlyBaked0 34指標23小時前

Same shit is ridiculous. Anyone who watched prime Kobe knows that he was fucking insane

湖人球迷:有些人說的話你當放屁就好。任何一個看過巔峰Kobe打球的人都知道他是多麼的狂。 



[ – ]Platypus3333 58指標1天前

The reality of basketball is that there are probably more than ten players that belong in the top ten. And that situation will just get worse.

現實就是,籃球歷史上可能有多於十個球員都有能力進入歷史前十的討論範圍內。而且這個情況只會變得越來越糟糕。


[ – ]itsyaboikuzma 24指標22小時前

There's a good 15 or 16 players that I've seen argued to be in the top 10, and it's really hard to argue them out of it. We can move the goalpost to top 15 players but it just doesn't have the same ring as top 10.

我見過有15到16名球員都被人們認為有能力進入前十,而且拿掉他們的任何一個都很艱難。我們當然可以把門檻調整到前15,但是前十畢竟聽起來要酷炫很多啊。


[ – ]PacersToTimesTwoisToo 71指標1天前*

It's always arguable. Only MJ, LBJ and Kareem are your absolute "top 5" guys. Everyone else slides around the top ten, including Kobe.

總是很有爭議性。只有喬丹,詹姆斯和賈巴爾是前五的絕對固定人選。前十中其餘每個人的排名都在不斷變化,包括Kobe。

one thing is for sure. If there ever was a space-jam type scenario where earth needs send any player from any time point to battle against some basketball alien gods to save humanity, you pick MJ, Kobe, then LBJ in that order. No one else is worth considering.

有一件事是確定的。如果真的有《Space Jam》的劇情出現,地球需要從籃球史挑精英球員來對抗外星球的籃球大神來拯救人類,人們一定會依次挑選喬丹、Kobe,然後是詹姆斯。其他任何人都不在考慮範圍內。


[ – ]Lakersmatticans7pointO 21指標1天前

I think it's fair to say Bird, Magic, Duncan, Hawkiem, and Kobe are l pretty closely ranked and interchangeable imo. I personally have Kobe and Bird in my top 5 but I think its 100% understandable for people to have some kind of combination of Duncan, Magic and Hakeem in there instead. At that point you are basically splitting hairs as all are so closely talented and accomplished.

湖人球迷:在我看來,大鳥伯德、魔術師、鄧肯,大夢和Kobe的排名十分接近,而且可以互換。我個人是把Kobe和大鳥列入我的前五名單裡的,但是如果在別人看來是鄧肯,魔術師和大夢的話,這也是百分之百可以理解的。在這種情況下,任何取捨都十分艱難,因為每個人的天賦和成就都是那麼的接近。


[ – ]PacersToTimesTwoisToo 16指標1天前

Exactly. You can make a great case for any of those guys, depending on what you take into consideration (mentality, dominance, accolades, longevity, era, peak, etc.). But LBJ, MJ, and Kareem pretty much had it all , it would be harder to argue those guys out of the top 5 than to argue Bird/Kobe into the top 5.

完全正確。上述的每個人都有資格進入那個名單,取決於你考慮的是哪個方面(心態,統治力,榮譽,生涯壽命,時代,巔峰等等)。但是詹姆斯,喬丹和賈霸基本上是完美了,把他們三個開會開出前五可比把大鳥/Kobe開進前五要難。

Kobe生涯精選

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